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  The Finished Mystery: 1917 Print

  by Hadriel in

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  anyone have a copy of this book?

  i'll pay hard cash :).. i don't know if this is appropriate to post so if not feel free to can the post.. pm if you have a copy and would part with it..

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  Hadriel,

  I have been looking for a hardcopy of that book as well.
  Unfortunately the originals are a bit too expensive for my liking: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/the-finished-mystery

  Be aware that the cheaper ones are actually reprints...
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  NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

  by apocalypse in

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  i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

  the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

  this is huge.

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  @KateWild,

  Check your local laws. In many countries children from age 12 can weigh in on decisions regarding their own medical treatment. Watchtower corp makes sure parents know this and prep their kids according to JW policy.

  I know your situation is quite hard and (if I remember correctly) you might not be able to talk freely to your son about this, but in case any issue arise it may be good that you know the law so you can ask a surgeon or judge to talk to your son privately and make sure his decision is taken into account.

  Take care...
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  CLAM & MWB - July 2016

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

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  2. beliefs

  following cited on page six: of ps 75:4, 5, 10—what is signified by the term “horn”?

  the horns of an animal are a powerful weapon.

  hence, the term “horn” figuratively denotes power, or strength.

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  So all this means that elders are horny, and the GB are hornier? :-p

  Anyway, they love to abuse people's (irrational) love (and fear) of God to make them obey unconditonally :-(
  
  
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  The Effects Of Instant Information At Your Finger Tips How Will The Watchtower Ever Survive Very Long?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it is hard to teach that the earth is flat these day do to a more informed society, and now that we have entered the information age i see a whole new ball game is before a rather ignorant bunch of old farts called the governing body.

  these guys are totally ignorant by choice and are trying desperately to keep their captive's ignorant for as long as possible.

  the gb's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement.

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  Magnum: I believed that people had to have curiosity, integrity, strength, honesty, and a willingness to be different to hear and act on the "ring of truth".

  
  However, I continued to be curious; I continued to question and seek. I grew in honesty and strength. My curiosity, integrity, honesty, etc. led me to where I am today. I believe that I have now reached a 2nd level, a higher level of curiosity and integrity, and I think they many, if not most, JWs won't be able to do that.

  The way JW operate, they will most likely only find 'level 1' curious people.
  You know, the type of people that might wonder about important questions, but are too lazy (or just not curious enough) to really investigate.
  So, when a stranger knocks at their door (or when they are born-in) and delivers the apparent answers on a silver platter on their doorstep, they are curious enough to listen to what he has to say.
  And when they hear that initial 'ring-of-truth' their other fine qualities (integrity, strength, honesty) help them to be sucked in to the cult.
  
  Any 'level 2' curious person already did his own research, and if he encounters JW already is much better equipped with knowledge and opinions to see through their bullsh#t.

  While writing this I suddenly realize that all those people I encountered in field 'service' that directly rejected me/Watchtower/Jehovah...they were not all ignorant, unwilling to learn or investigate, dishonest or less than integer. Many of them might have been, but a large portion had already investigated all kinds of topics, reached an honest conclusion, and knew up-front that whatever I was going to say wasn't worth their time.
  Like I already know up-front that their is no value in letting a young-earth-creationist try to 'prove' to me that the earth is actually a little over 6k years old. I heard it all, he can bring nothing new, so no thanks.

  In field service it was me - blindfolded by Watchtower - who wasn't curious, honest, integer and strong enough to really listen to what those people I met had to say, and then investigate that. It was me who was on level 1 or less for all these fine qualities.
  
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  1) raised

  2) 2001 (age 21)

  3) 2015

  14 years in by 'choice'

  36 years wasted :-/
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  A blog post on my 65th birthday

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  putting this out there for everybody.

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  http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/.

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  Happy birthday Jeff!

  I marked it in yellow because this is a very unique birthday wish: it's my first ever :-)

  (OK I practised with wishing Simon and this forum 'happy birthday' by that was technically an anniversary ;-))
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  If death is a natural occurrence in the human species, why are we born with the innate feeling to continue living indefinitely?

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there are some people that do in fact want to die.

  these people include the mentally unstable, emotionally imbalanced, and those suffering from ailments or diseases, just to name a few.. i've never met however, anyone, or heard of anyone, who is of sound mind, who just awoke one day and thought it would be an excellent day to die......naturally.. your thoughts?.

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  • Human desire to live another day = evidence we are meant to live forever?
  • Human tendency to kill humans from competing groups = ?
  • Human tendency to not be monogamous for life = ?

  Well the solution is easy of course. The latter two can be ascribed to our sinful state!

  Those are not evidence of what perfect humans are really like.

  And thus anything that contradicts our precious theology is reasoned away....
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  Walking Fish - evolution or adaptation?

  by Earnest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a recent article in nature reports on a fish that has a pelvic girdle with features associated with terrestrial vertebrates.. discuss..

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  Why is there only one common ancestor? Why is there no evidence of other "common ancestors" which were not as successful? Was there no competition to be the "first" common ancestor?

  In 2010, based on "the vast array of molecular sequences now available from all domains of life," a formal test of universal common ancestry was published. The formal test favored the existence of a universal common ancestor over a wide class of alternative hypotheses that included horizontal gene transfer. While the formal test overwhelmingly favored the existence of a single LUA, this does not imply that the LUA was ever alone. Instead, it was a member of the early microbial community.

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  These lines of chemical evidence, taken into account for the formal statistical test by Theobald (2010), point to a single cell having been the LUA in that, although it was a member of the early microbial community, only its descendents survived beyond the Paleoarchean Era.

  (LUA = Last Universal Ancestor)
  

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_universal_ancestor?wprov=sfla1

  http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v465/n7295/full/nature09014.html

  
  

  
  
  
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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  Anders Andersen

  On the bright side: have you ever noticed that when you say or hear the same word many many times, it will lose it's meaning and just become an odd sound?

  JW's will not even know that 'loyalty' is a word after this convention...
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  Well I spilled it to the elders (elder)

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an elder came over for a visit the other night (he couldn't get a partner) personally i consider him a friend and have revieiled many things to him an figured the tie has come to step out of this religion slowly.. well i finally told him i have no believe in the bible (other then the confirmed history in it) or god.

  i did it slowly and tactfully and even non-agressive.. his response to learning i believe in evolution was that evolution doesn't happen now i respectfully disagreed and pointed out lactose and alcohol tolerance among the last thousand years as well as tibetian lung/hearts.

  he refused to believe it.

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  @Finkelstein,

  Great movie clip, thanks for sharing!